Sunday, July 25, 2010

Why can't women advice, refuse to share beds with & then beat\leave disobedient husbands?

The verse of Quran 4:34 has been variously interpreted by Muslims in the modern era, upto the modern era, EVERY translator %26amp; interpretor had interpreted the last bit as simply ';beat';, now Yusuf Ali added lightly after beat, although the original had no lightly, recently some people, uncomfortable with even ';lightly'; have said that it simply means to leave disobedient wives!





My question is, there are all kinds of husbands %26amp; all kinds of wives, many women are extremely smart they form the majority of University graduates in many countries, men always form a greater % in prison, so if there is any difference of opinion, its just as possible that the wife is right as the husband is wrong!





So why should only men have the right to advice wives %26amp; more important refuse to share their beds %26amp; beat them\beat them lightly\leave them(as you like to interpret this) as punishment?





What about dumb husbands with smart wives? What about high school dropout husbands with Harvard Graduate wives?





What about husbands with a slightly criminal mindset %26amp; very morally good wives?





What about extremely successful %26amp; powerful middle aged wives like Khadija who marry her employee Muhammad?





Why should a husband have the right to first advice, which is still tolerable, followed by refusing bed sharing %26amp; beating\leaving?





Even if the wife's opinion is right, why can't she make her husband see sense by punishing him like this?





Why aren't women given this authority as well, given that husbands can juat as often be wrong too?Why can't women advice, refuse to share beds with %26amp; then beat\leave disobedient husbands?
It's from the patriarchal societies that Muhammad lived in. Even if the wife is a Harvard Graduate and the man is semi-retarded, her testimony is still worth less than his according to Muhammad and the Qur'an! Men ran the show in those days, Muhammad would be turning in his grave if he could see the progress society in the non-Muslim developed countries have made regarding gender equality, but of course he wouldn't know that because he wasn't really a Prophet.Why can't women advice, refuse to share beds with %26amp; then beat\leave disobedient husbands?
You don't really want an answer do you, damn troll. You just want people to agree with you.


Stupidity, there's no cure.

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its haram for a man to 'beat' his wife...the women does have the right to ask for a divorce.





the hadith your referring to...the word 'beat' doesnt mean bash the crap out of her....it means smack as if you would smack a child when being disobediant. (as in a light slap on the hand, etc...)
What do you think will happen when a wife beat her husband? Is he gonna cry in a corner or flip off at the wife? Allah knows best.





Beat in the Quran means beating lightly, with a cloth even, and must not leave a mark or hurt her. Also, it must be done with good reason. Anything other than that is abusive, and the wife has the right to report to the police.





Women do have the right to leave their husband, when he is abusive, and/or does not fulfill his duties as husband.





The things that you see in the news are the results of mixing culture with religion. Those people chose to ignore those rules for their own benefit.


Women have rights in Islam. And don't let anyone tell them otherwise.
Bismillah irrahman i erraheem. In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Assalaamualaykum. Peace be upon you.


Abu Hurayrah (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said:


';If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he goes to sleep angry with her, the angels will curse her until morning.'; [Bukhari, see Fath al-Bari, 6/314]


Many women, when they have an argument with their husbands, ';punish'; them-as they think-by denying them their marital rights. This may result in major corruption if the husband is tempted to do something haraam, or it may backfire on the husband starts thinking seriously of taking another wife.


A wife should hasten to respond to her husband's call if he wants her, in obedience to the words of the Prophet (SAW):


';If a man calls his wife to his bed, let her respond, even if she is riding on the back of a camel (i.e. very busy).'; [See Zawa id al-bazzar, 2/181; see also Saheeh al-Jami', hadith no. 547]


At the same time the husband must show consideration towards his wife if she is sick, pregnant or depressed, so as to maintain harmony and prevent discord or hatred.





The words ';beat them'; does not imply to punching the women in the face or hurting her to cause pain. It means you should beat her lightly with the miswak which is a ';natural toothbrush'; used by all the prophets(PBUT*) and by Muslims. It is made of twigs of certain trees that are used on a regular basis to mantain oral hygine and gain the pleasure of ALLAH(Subhanna wa ta'ala). The first step is the husband should talk to his wife sternly if he catches her doing something wrong like not praying or not satisfying him sexually when he wants her to do so or the house isn't clean. Then if that does not work he should refuse to cuddle with her in bed since women love to snuggle close to their men. Then if those two options don't work he should not have sex with her until she repents and if none of the above work then he should beat her lightly. It should no leave bruises, cause bodily harm, broken bones, kill her, or cause her to bleed. It's a sharp hard smack. This does not cause any damage to the women. It also can not be done in front of the children and is a private matter between the man and his wife/wives.
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